Sunday, August 2, 2009

I don't understand how the tie rings work. Can someone please help me out??

I've seen people ask questions about them, but only on how good they are. I don't understand how letting a horse pull all the way back will teach them to not pull back. This actually blows my mind a little. What I was told to do and have done is just put a thick bronch halter on them tie it short to something that will stand forever, and just let them pull until they wear themselves out and realize it's useless. Can someone help me understand this other method why it works, how it works, what it does, and what happens. Thanks for all your help.
Nash
Answers:
i have a tie ring and let me tell you they are a dream come true.
I use to think that just tying them to a sturdy object worked to until my mare figured out she could break the rope!!! I've also had a friend of mine whose horse pull back with so much force that he fractured his neck!!!
when the horse pulls the rope through the aussie tie ring the rope stays tight and then the moment the horse stops and relaxes the tension stops. then you lead the horse back up to where you started and wait again for the horse to back up. after a while to horse realizes that if he backs up the halter puts pressure on his head if he doesn't there is no pressure. (the horse basically teaches himself to tie.) after a while you put it on a harder setting and do the same thing. this time it gets harder to pull the rope through the ring so it discourages the behavior even more and then the 3rd setting is very hard to pull through. If she really panicked she might pull it through a little bit but she'd soon stop.
on my mare who broke the lead rope she backed up maybe 4 or 5 times and each time she backed up less and less until all she has to do is put her head up and it all stops right there. believe me it works wonders!!
P.S. make sure you use a rope halter so the pressure is clear. and make sure to start with the easiest setting first and then go to the harder setting so injury risks become less likely.
A horse usually pulls back when feeling trapped or anxious.
When tying a horse to something solid like a tree, or a fence, many problems can arise should the horse decide he needs to pull back.
A horse might be able to pull free by sitting back until either the halter or the lead rope breaks...However, most times these things can hold up to the pressure, and the real problem begins: when the animal flips himself over and breaks his neck, when the tree limb or fenceboard he was tied to comes loose, or when the horse jumps forward suddenly into the fence and injures himself.
A tie ring is used so that, should the horse want to pull back, he can do so safely with little resistance, yet still remain tied. A long lead rope is used so that there is plenty of slack for him to pull back on.
After the horse pulls back far enough from the fence so that he doesn't feel threatened he will relax, and instant slack in the lead rope is given to him as a reward. At that time, the owner should lead him back up to the tie ring, and pull the slack back up.
Many owners try anything to make their horses pull back when on a tie ring, and this is actually beneficial to de-spook them. When the horse obliges and pulls back, he learns that being tied is nothing to worry about, because he can always get away if an emergency arises. Most horses, when used to pulling back, do so out of habit to get their freedom. A horse that pulls back on a tie ring remains tied, and so their reward for their bad behavior is lost.
For some horses, your method and others like it will work. Many others, though, have such a high "fight or flight" instinct that nothing can convince them to stop fighting the rope and just stand tied.
EDIT: DM, there are repercussions; depending on what setting you put the ring on, the lead rope will not give way so easily, and it will take a good effort to gain a little leeway.
You train/despook your horses when on a tie ring, so that they learn not to pull back when tied solid. That way, if the horse does pull back when on the ring, there is no risk of injury, and you can continue with training until the horse stands quietly. A tie ring is simply a training tool to help your horse learn to stand quiet when tied solid.
I am under the firm belief that if the horse feels it can pull back without repercussions, it will teach them that it's all right. And what happens if you don't use a tie ring? They're done it so many times with the ring they just bust right through their tie. I'm not saying these other folks are wrong, but this is my experience. It's dangerous for you and your horse.

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