Sunday, August 2, 2009

I am new to owning horse and i have a yearling spotted blue eyed stud that?

is very friendly he follows me every where and is kind of a pest at times he will come up behind me and put his head over my shoulder and lick me like a puppy should i discourage him from this or is it okay ? i'm wondering what will happen when he is older..
Answers:
He should be taught to respect for your space and be discouraged to lick on you and "cuddle". He needs to know the difference between your space and his space. It could be appropriate with a mare or gelding, but with a little stud colt you want to keep intact as a stallion he must realize now before he is over 1000 pounds that he isn't a pet. When you start breeding a stallion his entire mind changes and they are different after the first breeding season and there just isn't anyway around that fact.
If you are new to horses it would be a great idea to get an experienced handler to help you with this colt (I think you had mentioned that in another question you posted) it's nice that you are willing to look at all options for these horses and this colt.
I do own stallions and I have one I raised from the day he was born (he is 15yrs now) and it was hard not to love on him and let him be a "baby" or "pet". He is so loving and has alot of respect for humans. But I know never to turn my back on him no matter how loving and sweet he is. A stallion is always a Stallion.
On the other hand he is kind and hasn't started being study yet so he will probably have a good mind when he grows up. I have had to get stud colts gelded very young because they already started having study and rank attitudes, gelded them and bam they totally changed. A good stud can't be rank and hard to handle thats when people get hurt or worse. Just keep your eye on him and know where he is around you at all times and getting a trainer would be awesome for you and that little stud colt. Good luck with your new horses!!
sounds so sweet that he has made such a connection to you
Please read a few questions down to a writer who asked about stallions and you will read about the many negetive experiences that people sometimes have with stallions.
A stallion is no different than a bull. They can be quiet and well trained and friendly, but their hormones dramatically increase the risk of anyone handling them. A stallion with an inexperienced owner is a huge risk - it would be similiar to giving a loaded gun to a child. Yes, the child might end up totally safe, and you might get away with minimal problems. But it has been scientifically proven that handling a stallion is rift with problems and dangers. That is why youth under the age of 18 are not allowed to show stallions, and why top trainers such as Bob Avila and John Lyons say "Never turn your back on a stallion, never totally trust even the best stallion."
The world could use less poor stallions and more good geldings. I would suggest that for you, but of course the choice is yours. Just be aware of the liabilities you risk if any visitors, children or other horses get injured by your horse.
Good luck.
Aww sounds a lot like my horse. I have a blue eyed two year old paint gelding.
But anyway it's great that he follows you and that you made such a great connection. I think I would discourage the licking though. It's probably just him playing and "Teething" so to speak, but you don't him to turn that into biting later.
Good luck with your new horse. =)
I just wanted to add after reading everyone elses answers, Yes you should geld him (And pretty soon before he starts getting the hormones) but since that wasn't what you asked about in this question I'm not going to go into it.
Horses are not dogs!! He will grow into 1100 lbs of raging testosterone shortly and then you will have more on your hands than a puppy.
Please meet with someone knowledgable about horses and training. I would geld him, but i'm sure thats out of the question here.
Ok I gotta say this, that a new horse owner has no business promoting a stallion or servicing stallions. Does this horse have equisite proven bloodlines? If your basing his breeding on color alone, which it sounds like, that is not a good enough reason. Stallions should not be bred until they are proven in their talents and capabilities and their conformation and temperment. Ok, off soap box now, i figure it doesn't do any good anyway lol.
Hey Megan... Consider this, alot of unwanted horses that used to be slaughtered, but now can't be due to the slaughter houses closing... so 2 yr olds going through the sales for $50-$150's here and others wasted away from lack of care because they aren't even worth the stud fees from these back yard breeders.
Megan its called responsible breeding, there is no way the species would die out, theres wayyyy too many nice studs out there to put up with junk and irresponsible stud owners.
Back to Black Beauty World...
A yearling colt should be gelded as soon as possible, as fooling with stallions is dangerous. No one except experienced horsemen should deal with stallions. Even ones that are well-trained are still unpredictable because of their hormones. Either sell him or geld him--you have no business having a young colt when you are a first time horse owner.
aw mine did that too. but she died at 7 months july 7th willl make a year=[
hes just beening playful i would make him back off JUST a lil bit so when hes ful grown he wont think his just a colt and he might wind up hurting you
its good that he does this his showing you that yall have a bond..slowly make him back off and he should be perfectly fine =]
good luck


if all colts where gelding like these other ppl suggest ..it will put the species in danger =/ they dont undersatnd that every lil problem you dont have to geld/send to a professial =[ ok im done have a good day and have a great time with ur new horse =]
He's friendly now, but that will become dangerous when his hormones start to kick in. Our friendly colt was gelded at the end of winter just as he was starting to get studdish and began rearing up while being led to the field. This is extremely dangerous, and we have experience. If you are new to horses, this will be a recipe for disaster.
It isn't ok for him to be doing this. He is a horse, he will grow up to be a 1000lb livestock animal, he isn't a puppy. I agree 100% with what mulereiner and paint said, stallions are dangrous for inexperianced people. You should not own a stallion unless you are very experianced, and have a top quality horse. If your horse is not an almost perfect example of its breed, then geld it asap.
You need to start teaching this horse to respect people at a young age when he is still easy to handle, before he can seriously injure someone. If you let your colt be all over you, lick you, etc, he won't learn the bounderies, and when he gets older these behaviors will turn into "play" biteing you and not respecting your space. Watch a herd of 2 year olds play with eachother, then think about if that is how you wan't your horse to see you. Trust me, you will not want to be your 2 year old stallion's playmate.You need to teach him that you are the leader, and above him in the pecking order. If you let him play with you like you are another horse, he will grow up to be dominant, and won't listen to you, you will then have a very dangrous animal on your hands.
Even if the behavior is playful and friendly, it can quickly turn dangrous, horses don't understand that they are bigger then people and can injure humans, even if your horse is 'playing' it can still hurt you. Stallions need very strict handleing from the very beggining to grow up to be easily controlable, if you don't train this horse correctly you will have a monster on your hands by the time it is full grown.
Do you have a picture you could post? Do you know what breed he is? Have you ever watched a movie called Cloud the White Stallion?
If you haven't seen the movie then rent it or buy it. This movie will demostrate to you stallion behaviors. I have been around stallions, mares and geldings all of my life. I turned my back on a well trained older show horse stallion. I had $8,000 in surgery %26 hospital fees that day and was in the hospital for 3 days.
Please post conformation pictures of your horse. And if you don't know the breed of your colt then you have no business owning a stallion.
Dog %26 cat food cans are full of back yard bred horses. And of discarded horses that people who had no idea of what to do to prevent bad behaviors that were oh so cute from occuring in the first place.
You have had some good advice on these postings. When your colt grows up and picks you up by your shoulders and shakes you down like he would any mare then I want you to post again and ask another question about behaviors.
Now go take some pictures and post them.
Dawn
You shouldn't worry, as long as it's not aggresive. If this turns into nipping, every time he does it, give him a quick poke on the cheek. My paint does this, I think it's just a sign of love between you and him. He sounds beautiful, and he'll be a good breeder.
These behaviors won't be cute when he is 1000lbs of testosterone and trying to bite or mount you! Mouthing and licking lead to biting, and that is a VERY dangerous thing for a horse to do to a person. Like all the smart, experienced people on here have said - GELD HIM...yesterday! A good stallion makes a great gelding. A stallion with no papers, no performance record, and not near-perfect conformation and temperament should not be bred or kept intact...plenty of mediocre horses in the world already. If you don't have enough experience with horses to be asking this question...you should NOT own a stallion.
When he licks you its fine but if and when he starts nipping at you just slap him. When he is older if the licking continues it isn't really a big deal unless you don't like it, thats when you need to do something.
I really don't think that someone new to owning horses should own a stud at all. Studs can be extremely difficult to work with and can become dangerous. You should highly consider gelding him or selling him. I'm sorry to be blunt like that, but your safety and the horses safety could be in jeoprady.
I have been around stallions my entire life (my grandparents operate a ranch of two homozygous paint stallions). If you DO plan to use him for breeding (which I advise against but, of course, it is your choice) what do you hope to achieve by breeding him? For your own personal stock or to use as a stud? Stallions are incredibly dangerous, and therefore, do all you can to make sure he is completely and utterly trained manners as early as possible. I do not know of any active stallion that will retain those manners when it does come time to use him as a stud, but our paint stallions are very well behaved as long as there is no mare around. Therefore, in this case, if you do plan on keeping him intact, make sure he is as well behaved as you can get him. Also, I would not recommend using him as a primary riding horse if he is a stallion that you plan to breed as well - they can be a good ride but when they are actively breeding, they will always have that heightened interest in any mare and would make riding more struggle than its worth. Good luck though! He sounds gorgeous.
it is cute now but when hes 1000 lbs its not cute anymore. its dangerous. i would strongly discourage this behavior. and as far as having a stud, if you are a new horse owner i certainly would NOT keep him a stud. i understand you want to breed, but you seriously need to look into handling studs and etc. 9 times out of 10 they are not easy to handle or be around. i have been around and owned horses for 10 plus years and still to this day would not own a stud. ive been around way to many of them. they tend to have agressive behaviors.

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